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I'm taking a sick day today. Yesterday I woke up with the beginnings of a sore throat and drippy nose, and while it didn't get much worse over the course of the day, this morning I woke up and decided not to try to head down to Tilburg; even if I went, the chances that I'd get any work done were low and the chances that I'd infect others were high. And it's not like I don't have sick/holiday leave to spare, though I feel bad taking it today since it's the first colloquium of the semester, and the one thing I was told about my actual presence in Tilburg was "it'd be nice if you were here when we had seminar". But since that I'm sure comes with the caveat of "so long as you don't make all of us sick in doing so", I don't feel too bad. I finally hauled myself out of bed about half an hour ago, and now we're all lounging in the livingroom in the sun.
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Last Thursday I took the train over to Berlin for the final conference of the ESF LogiCCC scheme, through which my project in Amsterdam was coordinated. Quite a few of us from NL ended up on the same train, and Daniele had a seat reserved in the same car as me so he ended up sitting next to me since the train wasn't full and that seat wasn't reserved. When we arrived four of us were then together to find the hotel; we'd all printed the "directions by public transport" from the hotel's website, and even had a native speaker (Ulle) with us, so I at least figured we'd have no trouble. Turns out in fact that it is not the 240 -- in either direction -- that goes from the east train station to the hotel; it was something completely different. But we made it there eventually.
The conference officially started Friday morning, with just a reception and dinner on Thursday. Friday was mostly a day of each of the 8 projects reporting on what they'd done in the last three years; some of it was new to me, some of it I'd seen/heard before at previous workshops. But the schedule was relaxed enough that I was able to get in a nap after lunch, one during the afternoon coffee break, and another before supper -- which felt nice at the time but ended up backfiring on me when I tried to fall asleep Friday night. I was leaving early Saturday morning for the airport to fly to Stockholm, and I both had trouble falling asleep and woke up like 5 times over the course of the night. Ugh. So I was pretty beat by the time I got into Stockholm around 10:00am on Saturday.
I was in Stockholm for a two-day workshop looking at two recently edited late 12th C Aristotelian commentaries (on the Sophistical Refutations and the Prior Analytics) that I'd been invited to by Sten Ebbesen. It was a pretty intimate affair, with only 10 participants -- of which 4 were women, and of those 4, two were 7+ months pregnant, which is not the sort of demographic I've been used to! It was a fascinating weekend. Every time I get to do something indepth and medieval, I come away thinking "I wish I could spend all my time doing this", until of course I get home and I start doing logicy stuff again and think "wow, this is really fun". What I really need is the time and mental headspace to have two academic lives, but since this isn't possible I just have to continue splitting my time between both pursuits and enjoying them as I can.
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I find it fascinating the reactions I get from various people; almost uniformly, men think that I'm big for the stage I'm at, and women think I'm small (and further find it astonishing that I've already gained 10+ kg). Jesse, for example, commented along the lines of "it's not like you're going to get much bigger", and I had to say that there's a good chance I'll gain another 4-5kg before the end, and I could tell he didn't believe me. But the fact that I gained 1.2kg between Tuesday last week and Tuesday this week (I blame the really quite well done 3-course meals we were served in Berlin!) indicates I'm not far off! This past week or so has been pretty uncomfortable; if I'm not sitting just right, or lying flat, then I keep pulling on that strained muscle and if I'm in an uncomfortable chair for more than a few hours, the pain can get so bad that it makes me somewhat nauseated. Naproxin (the only pain reliever I'm willing to take) doesn't seem to do much good, even as a placebo, but luckily bags of ice cubes do help. I usually fall asleep at night on one of my sides with an ice pack wedged in place by a pillow; it's not just the cold but also the pressure that helps. It's not a terribly comfortable way to sleep (my hip and shoulder get pretty sore), but at least I can sleep. I had my first wake-me-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night leg cramp over the weekend, so bad I had to get out of bed and walk it off, but mostly I can tell which ways I need to not move to prevent them and I can do so. As of this weekend my fingers have also gotten too big to wear my rings comfortably; I'm now wearing my engagement ring on a chain around my neck, but I haven't taken my wedding ring off yet, even though I probably should. I just hate, hate, hate not having it on, it drives me distracted. It still fits loose around where it is, I just couldn't get it over the knuckle without great difficulty. I'm also waking up the morning to very painful fingers, just from the knuckles to the tips. I've realized that in my default mode of sleeping, I usually sleep with my hands curled up -- not clenched, but in claw shapes. Now I've started making an effort to flatten them out when I realize that they aren't, which helps a bit, but feels awkward.
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At the end of August Joel and I started looking at the possibility of moving to Tilburg; he still thought I was crazy for considering doing the commute regularly, but more than that, it's expensive. If we moved, we could cut down on that cost, and also get a place with a room for the baby which, given that he's working from home as of Sept. 1, is something that is important for him. I started searching various websites recommended by the university and by Martijn, and it was really quite frustrating. Everyone said "Oh, Tilburg will be so much cheaper than Amsterdam", but that isn't really the case. First, our rent here includes all utilities, but most places advertised don't, and for some time I had no idea how much to estimate for gas/water/electric, depending on whether it was an apartment, a house, a part of a house, or what. I eventually figured out that budgeting 150-200EUR/month would be realistic; we strongly suspect that we would not actually spend this much, since we don't keep the house very warm and don't use that much electricity (and even though our water consumption will go up when we start washing diapers, water contributes by far the least to the total). So if we wanted to pay less than we're currently paying, we were looking in the 750-800EUR category. And frankly, there just aren't that many 2-bedroom apartments in Tilburg/Breda/den Bosch in that price range; and many that we found required you to register with a rental agency before they'd fix a viewing for you, and this registration often required (a) all sorts of paperwork that I don't even know what it is because they're naming it in Dutch and googletranslate didn't have a clue, and we also probably don't have for Joel since he's not employed by a Dutch company, (b) a ridiculous registration fee (100-600EUR!), and (c) proof of gross income either 4 or 5 times more than the monthly rent. And they would only accept a calculation based on two incomes if the partners were (a) married and (b) 35 or older, and then only half of the partner's income would be counted. Well, I'm not making too shabby an amount as a post-doc at UvT (same as I'm making at UvA actually), but 20% or 25% of that is less than 750. What's frustrating is that we've been paying 950/month for 6 years on salaries much lower than we're currently making, and the one time we were late with a payment had to do with a delay in getting a bank transfer from the US to NL, and we knew in advance we wouldn't make it and let our landlady know that it would be 2-3 days late. So it's not like we're unreliable tenants.
Two weeks ago though I managed to finagle a viewing for a nice place about 20 min. from the university by bus, so Joel came down to Tilburg with me and we went to see it. It was in a lovely quiet neighborhood, and the bus literally dropped us off in front of the house. It had three bedrooms on the first floor and a finished attic which would've made a great office for Joel. There was a fire place and a backyard, a lovely big livingroom, and a storage closet for our bikes, etc. But the kitchen let us down: no freezer (that's OK, we could buy one and hook it up in the closet); electric stove (not our preference, but we could live with it if we had to); and no full size oven. Instead, they had this tiny little combination microwave/oven that could fit a frozen pizza and that's about it. And that was the thing that really let it down. We took a good few days to talk about it, but decided that we simply couldn't live without a big enough oven to be able to do pizzas/cheesecakes/roast/etc., so we declined it.
Last week I found a gorgeous place in den Bosch, in an old merchant house just across from the train station, with a livingroom bigger than our current apartment. For that I had to send Joel down himself to view it, since I had a meeting the afternoon that they could schedule a viewing, and the rental agent said there were quite a few people interested in it that he was showing it to that day. For this one, the only drawback was no bathtub (boo), and the second bedroom was a bit small, but that's not so bad for a baby's room. Also, there would've been no separate office space for Joel, but we could've made some of the livingroom into an office. He called me after viewing it and was quite happy with it, and said we had to let them know that evening if we were interested. We talked about it and thought about it and finally said yes, even though it likely would've meant a start date of Oct. 1, whereas we were hoping either for a start date of Dec. 1, in which case we'd keep our place in Amsterdam until Dec. 31, or a start date of Oct. 15, in which case we'd keep our place here until Dec. 1. Unfortunately, he got a reply the next morning that it had been rented out to someone else. :(
Tuesday this week I managed to get appointments to view two places on the same day, so he came down with me again (let me tell you, I can handle the commute, though I don't really like it, but wow does it make him grumpy). The first I thought was about 4km away from the university -- farther than I wanted -- and the second at 900EUR was probably too expensive for us, so I wasn't too optimistic about either.
The first was half a duplex, in a brick building built in 1940. Large livingroom with fireplace, and windows on both the west and east sides (but the west, looking onto the street, overlooks a Texaco gas station/car wash -- not exactly beautiful), kitchen that was completely redone last year with a 6-burner gas stove (yay!), tons of cupboard space, and while it also has a combi oven/microwave, it's bigger than the other one, and we had measurements of some of our pots, etc., and it would work. Large bathroom with bathtub, shower, and toilet all in separate compartments, which can be convenient. A cellar (!), small, but they're basically unheard of here, and could be used for storage. Outside there isn't much of a yard (but that's OK, we don't need to have to buy a lawnmower), with one shed that we can put our bikes in and another shed already stocked with firewood. :) Upstairs on the first floor are two bedrooms, both very good size and each with a big closet, and a deck built above the bathroom, with space to sit in the sun and to have some plants. The cats would love it. The attic is finished and has a steep roof with windows on either side so it gets lots of light. There's more cupboards and closets and storage up there too. The house is definitely decorated from the 50s, with carpeting that would not be our first choice (first, we would rather have no carpeting at all, second, if we had to have carpeting, it wouldn't be those patterns), but carpeting is something you can live with. Same with the linoleum in the master bedroom; we'd just get a big floor rug. The owners (who were the ones showing us the property) said that another family, with two kids, had also been quite interested in the place, but also indicated that given the choice between a family with two kids and one with a new baby, they'd go for the one with a new baby. Also, the lady said we could box up and put into storage any of the decor/knickknacks/pictures we didn't want.
The second place was much closer to the university -- < 2km I believe, and right above an Albert Heijn, can't get much more convenient than that! Big living/diningroom, an adequate kitchen (again, no real oven, but one that under duress would work), coat closet in the front hall, two good sized bedrooms (but nothing that would work as office space) and a nice balcony overlooking a park. It's part of an apartment complex and thus there was also a storage shed in the basement where we could put our bikes. Not a bad place at all, but it didn't really grab us, especially when we factored in utility costs in both places and found that they would either be roughly the same, or the first a slight bit more, but with the first we'd get so much more space, and a real house rather than an apartment. We'd pretty much decided by the time we left that we weren't going to take that place, but figured we'd wait at least a bit to say so out of politeness.
We had to head straight from Tilburg to the prenatal class, which made for a pretty long night, but the train ride home did give us time to do some more research on the neighborhood of the first -- I discovered that in fact it's somewhat closer to the university than I thought, with a fairly direct bike route being 3.5km, whereas currently I bike 3.4km from home to Science Park. There's an AH 850 meters away (4 times as far as our current one, I don't know how we'll handle it...), a vet just down the block, and it's also quite close -- 1.5-2km -- from the center, so Joel could go downtown to find a cafe or a library or a pub to work in on days he didn't want to work from home. By the end of the night, we'd pretty well made up our minds. Still, in the morning, I did one last comparison -- I took all the potential properties I'd found (many of which I'd been trying in vain to get viewings for), sorted them by number of rooms, and then by commute, and then by price, and in terms of all three, the place was really quite close t the top of the list, and it had the added bonus that we'd actually seen it and were in a position to say "yes", whereas the other ones that might have been higher ranked we had no idea that we'd even be able to get viewings of before they were rented to someone else. So around lunch time yesterday I replied to the rental agent saying we were interested, and asking when it was available, that we'd prefer a start date of Oct. 15 or later, but would be willing to do Oct. 1 if that was necessary to make sure we got the place instead of someone else.
When 5pm came around and I'd gotten no response, I was pretty disappointed, but figured that the agent had to relay our offer to the owners, and then the owners would have to say yes or no, etc., so I wasn't too worried. But I was pretty surprised when I got an email from the agent around 9pm, saying that the owners were very enthusiastic with us, the place was available as of Oct. 15, and he suggested we come down that day to sign the contract.
So, whoo! We have a house. (Not so much "whoo" about moving, but having a month and a half to do so will make it much less stressful, even with having a baby sometime in that period). I really had hoped we'd get a house, and not an apartment. I'm nearly 30, we're both out of school, we both have jobs, we're about to have a kid: I'm ready to start living like an adult. (This is not to say I haven't loved our apartment here in Amsterdam. It's going to be very hard to give it up; it's the longest I've lived in one place since I moved from Waukesha to Marshfield when I was 10. It just meant that any place I had to move to would have to be significantly better for me to consider it). It is this place (this is actually the sale listing, rather than the rental listing, for the property, but it has better pictures, even though the pictures don't really do it justice). The place is for sale, which means that if it is sold, we'll have 3 months to find a new place, but honestly, I'm not worried about it selling in the next 9 months. There are quite a few other properties in the neighborhood (including the same street!) that are also for sale, and have been for 6+ months; this property and one other have even already dropped their asking prices once. Judging from other sale listings I've seen, I would've guessed this place was for sale for ~120,000EUR, but it is actually 150,000EUR (from 159,500EUR), which I think is too much for a place that pretty much anyone would want to seriously redecorate upon moving in. Also, it's forecasted that Dutch housing prices will continue to fall another 10% or so in the next year, so no one in their right mind would be buying.
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So that's stuff. Wow, I just spent an hour writing this post.
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Last Thursday I took the train over to Berlin for the final conference of the ESF LogiCCC scheme, through which my project in Amsterdam was coordinated. Quite a few of us from NL ended up on the same train, and Daniele had a seat reserved in the same car as me so he ended up sitting next to me since the train wasn't full and that seat wasn't reserved. When we arrived four of us were then together to find the hotel; we'd all printed the "directions by public transport" from the hotel's website, and even had a native speaker (Ulle) with us, so I at least figured we'd have no trouble. Turns out in fact that it is not the 240 -- in either direction -- that goes from the east train station to the hotel; it was something completely different. But we made it there eventually.
The conference officially started Friday morning, with just a reception and dinner on Thursday. Friday was mostly a day of each of the 8 projects reporting on what they'd done in the last three years; some of it was new to me, some of it I'd seen/heard before at previous workshops. But the schedule was relaxed enough that I was able to get in a nap after lunch, one during the afternoon coffee break, and another before supper -- which felt nice at the time but ended up backfiring on me when I tried to fall asleep Friday night. I was leaving early Saturday morning for the airport to fly to Stockholm, and I both had trouble falling asleep and woke up like 5 times over the course of the night. Ugh. So I was pretty beat by the time I got into Stockholm around 10:00am on Saturday.
I was in Stockholm for a two-day workshop looking at two recently edited late 12th C Aristotelian commentaries (on the Sophistical Refutations and the Prior Analytics) that I'd been invited to by Sten Ebbesen. It was a pretty intimate affair, with only 10 participants -- of which 4 were women, and of those 4, two were 7+ months pregnant, which is not the sort of demographic I've been used to! It was a fascinating weekend. Every time I get to do something indepth and medieval, I come away thinking "I wish I could spend all my time doing this", until of course I get home and I start doing logicy stuff again and think "wow, this is really fun". What I really need is the time and mental headspace to have two academic lives, but since this isn't possible I just have to continue splitting my time between both pursuits and enjoying them as I can.
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I find it fascinating the reactions I get from various people; almost uniformly, men think that I'm big for the stage I'm at, and women think I'm small (and further find it astonishing that I've already gained 10+ kg). Jesse, for example, commented along the lines of "it's not like you're going to get much bigger", and I had to say that there's a good chance I'll gain another 4-5kg before the end, and I could tell he didn't believe me. But the fact that I gained 1.2kg between Tuesday last week and Tuesday this week (I blame the really quite well done 3-course meals we were served in Berlin!) indicates I'm not far off! This past week or so has been pretty uncomfortable; if I'm not sitting just right, or lying flat, then I keep pulling on that strained muscle and if I'm in an uncomfortable chair for more than a few hours, the pain can get so bad that it makes me somewhat nauseated. Naproxin (the only pain reliever I'm willing to take) doesn't seem to do much good, even as a placebo, but luckily bags of ice cubes do help. I usually fall asleep at night on one of my sides with an ice pack wedged in place by a pillow; it's not just the cold but also the pressure that helps. It's not a terribly comfortable way to sleep (my hip and shoulder get pretty sore), but at least I can sleep. I had my first wake-me-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night leg cramp over the weekend, so bad I had to get out of bed and walk it off, but mostly I can tell which ways I need to not move to prevent them and I can do so. As of this weekend my fingers have also gotten too big to wear my rings comfortably; I'm now wearing my engagement ring on a chain around my neck, but I haven't taken my wedding ring off yet, even though I probably should. I just hate, hate, hate not having it on, it drives me distracted. It still fits loose around where it is, I just couldn't get it over the knuckle without great difficulty. I'm also waking up the morning to very painful fingers, just from the knuckles to the tips. I've realized that in my default mode of sleeping, I usually sleep with my hands curled up -- not clenched, but in claw shapes. Now I've started making an effort to flatten them out when I realize that they aren't, which helps a bit, but feels awkward.
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At the end of August Joel and I started looking at the possibility of moving to Tilburg; he still thought I was crazy for considering doing the commute regularly, but more than that, it's expensive. If we moved, we could cut down on that cost, and also get a place with a room for the baby which, given that he's working from home as of Sept. 1, is something that is important for him. I started searching various websites recommended by the university and by Martijn, and it was really quite frustrating. Everyone said "Oh, Tilburg will be so much cheaper than Amsterdam", but that isn't really the case. First, our rent here includes all utilities, but most places advertised don't, and for some time I had no idea how much to estimate for gas/water/electric, depending on whether it was an apartment, a house, a part of a house, or what. I eventually figured out that budgeting 150-200EUR/month would be realistic; we strongly suspect that we would not actually spend this much, since we don't keep the house very warm and don't use that much electricity (and even though our water consumption will go up when we start washing diapers, water contributes by far the least to the total). So if we wanted to pay less than we're currently paying, we were looking in the 750-800EUR category. And frankly, there just aren't that many 2-bedroom apartments in Tilburg/Breda/den Bosch in that price range; and many that we found required you to register with a rental agency before they'd fix a viewing for you, and this registration often required (a) all sorts of paperwork that I don't even know what it is because they're naming it in Dutch and googletranslate didn't have a clue, and we also probably don't have for Joel since he's not employed by a Dutch company, (b) a ridiculous registration fee (100-600EUR!), and (c) proof of gross income either 4 or 5 times more than the monthly rent. And they would only accept a calculation based on two incomes if the partners were (a) married and (b) 35 or older, and then only half of the partner's income would be counted. Well, I'm not making too shabby an amount as a post-doc at UvT (same as I'm making at UvA actually), but 20% or 25% of that is less than 750. What's frustrating is that we've been paying 950/month for 6 years on salaries much lower than we're currently making, and the one time we were late with a payment had to do with a delay in getting a bank transfer from the US to NL, and we knew in advance we wouldn't make it and let our landlady know that it would be 2-3 days late. So it's not like we're unreliable tenants.
Two weeks ago though I managed to finagle a viewing for a nice place about 20 min. from the university by bus, so Joel came down to Tilburg with me and we went to see it. It was in a lovely quiet neighborhood, and the bus literally dropped us off in front of the house. It had three bedrooms on the first floor and a finished attic which would've made a great office for Joel. There was a fire place and a backyard, a lovely big livingroom, and a storage closet for our bikes, etc. But the kitchen let us down: no freezer (that's OK, we could buy one and hook it up in the closet); electric stove (not our preference, but we could live with it if we had to); and no full size oven. Instead, they had this tiny little combination microwave/oven that could fit a frozen pizza and that's about it. And that was the thing that really let it down. We took a good few days to talk about it, but decided that we simply couldn't live without a big enough oven to be able to do pizzas/cheesecakes/roast/etc., so we declined it.
Last week I found a gorgeous place in den Bosch, in an old merchant house just across from the train station, with a livingroom bigger than our current apartment. For that I had to send Joel down himself to view it, since I had a meeting the afternoon that they could schedule a viewing, and the rental agent said there were quite a few people interested in it that he was showing it to that day. For this one, the only drawback was no bathtub (boo), and the second bedroom was a bit small, but that's not so bad for a baby's room. Also, there would've been no separate office space for Joel, but we could've made some of the livingroom into an office. He called me after viewing it and was quite happy with it, and said we had to let them know that evening if we were interested. We talked about it and thought about it and finally said yes, even though it likely would've meant a start date of Oct. 1, whereas we were hoping either for a start date of Dec. 1, in which case we'd keep our place in Amsterdam until Dec. 31, or a start date of Oct. 15, in which case we'd keep our place here until Dec. 1. Unfortunately, he got a reply the next morning that it had been rented out to someone else. :(
Tuesday this week I managed to get appointments to view two places on the same day, so he came down with me again (let me tell you, I can handle the commute, though I don't really like it, but wow does it make him grumpy). The first I thought was about 4km away from the university -- farther than I wanted -- and the second at 900EUR was probably too expensive for us, so I wasn't too optimistic about either.
The first was half a duplex, in a brick building built in 1940. Large livingroom with fireplace, and windows on both the west and east sides (but the west, looking onto the street, overlooks a Texaco gas station/car wash -- not exactly beautiful), kitchen that was completely redone last year with a 6-burner gas stove (yay!), tons of cupboard space, and while it also has a combi oven/microwave, it's bigger than the other one, and we had measurements of some of our pots, etc., and it would work. Large bathroom with bathtub, shower, and toilet all in separate compartments, which can be convenient. A cellar (!), small, but they're basically unheard of here, and could be used for storage. Outside there isn't much of a yard (but that's OK, we don't need to have to buy a lawnmower), with one shed that we can put our bikes in and another shed already stocked with firewood. :) Upstairs on the first floor are two bedrooms, both very good size and each with a big closet, and a deck built above the bathroom, with space to sit in the sun and to have some plants. The cats would love it. The attic is finished and has a steep roof with windows on either side so it gets lots of light. There's more cupboards and closets and storage up there too. The house is definitely decorated from the 50s, with carpeting that would not be our first choice (first, we would rather have no carpeting at all, second, if we had to have carpeting, it wouldn't be those patterns), but carpeting is something you can live with. Same with the linoleum in the master bedroom; we'd just get a big floor rug. The owners (who were the ones showing us the property) said that another family, with two kids, had also been quite interested in the place, but also indicated that given the choice between a family with two kids and one with a new baby, they'd go for the one with a new baby. Also, the lady said we could box up and put into storage any of the decor/knickknacks/pictures we didn't want.
The second place was much closer to the university -- < 2km I believe, and right above an Albert Heijn, can't get much more convenient than that! Big living/diningroom, an adequate kitchen (again, no real oven, but one that under duress would work), coat closet in the front hall, two good sized bedrooms (but nothing that would work as office space) and a nice balcony overlooking a park. It's part of an apartment complex and thus there was also a storage shed in the basement where we could put our bikes. Not a bad place at all, but it didn't really grab us, especially when we factored in utility costs in both places and found that they would either be roughly the same, or the first a slight bit more, but with the first we'd get so much more space, and a real house rather than an apartment. We'd pretty much decided by the time we left that we weren't going to take that place, but figured we'd wait at least a bit to say so out of politeness.
We had to head straight from Tilburg to the prenatal class, which made for a pretty long night, but the train ride home did give us time to do some more research on the neighborhood of the first -- I discovered that in fact it's somewhat closer to the university than I thought, with a fairly direct bike route being 3.5km, whereas currently I bike 3.4km from home to Science Park. There's an AH 850 meters away (4 times as far as our current one, I don't know how we'll handle it...), a vet just down the block, and it's also quite close -- 1.5-2km -- from the center, so Joel could go downtown to find a cafe or a library or a pub to work in on days he didn't want to work from home. By the end of the night, we'd pretty well made up our minds. Still, in the morning, I did one last comparison -- I took all the potential properties I'd found (many of which I'd been trying in vain to get viewings for), sorted them by number of rooms, and then by commute, and then by price, and in terms of all three, the place was really quite close t the top of the list, and it had the added bonus that we'd actually seen it and were in a position to say "yes", whereas the other ones that might have been higher ranked we had no idea that we'd even be able to get viewings of before they were rented to someone else. So around lunch time yesterday I replied to the rental agent saying we were interested, and asking when it was available, that we'd prefer a start date of Oct. 15 or later, but would be willing to do Oct. 1 if that was necessary to make sure we got the place instead of someone else.
When 5pm came around and I'd gotten no response, I was pretty disappointed, but figured that the agent had to relay our offer to the owners, and then the owners would have to say yes or no, etc., so I wasn't too worried. But I was pretty surprised when I got an email from the agent around 9pm, saying that the owners were very enthusiastic with us, the place was available as of Oct. 15, and he suggested we come down that day to sign the contract.
So, whoo! We have a house. (Not so much "whoo" about moving, but having a month and a half to do so will make it much less stressful, even with having a baby sometime in that period). I really had hoped we'd get a house, and not an apartment. I'm nearly 30, we're both out of school, we both have jobs, we're about to have a kid: I'm ready to start living like an adult. (This is not to say I haven't loved our apartment here in Amsterdam. It's going to be very hard to give it up; it's the longest I've lived in one place since I moved from Waukesha to Marshfield when I was 10. It just meant that any place I had to move to would have to be significantly better for me to consider it). It is this place (this is actually the sale listing, rather than the rental listing, for the property, but it has better pictures, even though the pictures don't really do it justice). The place is for sale, which means that if it is sold, we'll have 3 months to find a new place, but honestly, I'm not worried about it selling in the next 9 months. There are quite a few other properties in the neighborhood (including the same street!) that are also for sale, and have been for 6+ months; this property and one other have even already dropped their asking prices once. Judging from other sale listings I've seen, I would've guessed this place was for sale for ~120,000EUR, but it is actually 150,000EUR (from 159,500EUR), which I think is too much for a place that pretty much anyone would want to seriously redecorate upon moving in. Also, it's forecasted that Dutch housing prices will continue to fall another 10% or so in the next year, so no one in their right mind would be buying.
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So that's stuff. Wow, I just spent an hour writing this post.
